From: Ron Ritzman Subject: The three stages of the chickenboner Date: 01 Mar 2000 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <5l3rbskp4efretmog79t51mo9slrh3gcfo@4ax.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: MindSpring Enterprises X-Server-Date: 1 Mar 2000 22:28:55 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Also called the Rutman pattern" after Yuri Rutman. The Rutman affair that gave us the term "joe job" happened in three stages. Ever since then just about every chickenboner whose antics get bought to the attention of us (tinu) goes through these stages. The chickenboner might skip a stage but it always happens in this order. Stage 1 "Who little old me?". The chickenboner is caught spamming. First he feigns innocence and acts so surprised. "Me, a spammer?" He might give excuses such as he bought what he thought was an opt-in list or that he paid an "Internet marketer" and didn't know he was a spammer. At this point he begs to get his account restored and may promise to be a good boy and will never spam again. Now some are serious and learn their lesion and never move beyond this stage, for the chickenboner, this is just an application of "rule 1". Stage 2 "You're playing with the big boys now" Those who have seen "the Prince of Egypt" may recall the scene where Moses throws down his staff and it turns into a snake. The two bumbling priests respond by putting on this huge pyrotechnic "dog and pony show" where they try to scare Moses into believing that he is now messing with some very powerful (but nonexistent) Egyptian gods. Well, this is what the chickenboner tries to do in stage two. Yuri Rutman tried it in this email to Joe Doll http://www.markwelch.com/yuri_hd.htm. Here the chickenboner is trying to convince you that you are messing with a big mover and shaker in the business world and you have better restore his account (or retract your "slanderous" comments or withdraw your complain/RBL nomination or whatever) or he will sick his army of Harvard trained lawyers on you. Ed Cherry tried it, Andrew Brunner tried it and Scott Turner tried it. (though he limited it to complaints to *our* ISPs) Now to most of us this kind of empty legal posturing just gives us a case of deja moo (the feeling that you have heard that bull before) but it sure is impressive to other chickenboners who believe that they are really sticking it to the "Net Nazis". Stage 3 "I'm gonna git U sucka" At this stage the chickenboner has lost and he knows it. The only thing left is to exact retribution from those who the chickenboner believes have wronged him. It is at this stage that Yuri launched the original "joe job". Sometimes this is just simply posting trolls to NANAE as Ed Cherry is doing and as Brunner is now starting to do. Sometimes it is mailbombs and "nuisance spams" as John McGraff did when Sam had his spamhaus shut down (the infamous enterprise.net fiasco of a few years ago) and sometimes it is joe jobs, death threats and crank phone calls. Terri DeSisto and HipCrime/Bluelister have been stuck at stage 3 for years.